BatteriesFebruary 24, 2019

Explore the synergy between solar energy, Tesla batteries, and electric transportation. Dive into the future of off-grid living, the challenges of EV supercharging, and the evolving landscape of autopilot technology.

I'm here with Mr. Matt Foley, Esquire, late of Hawthorne, New Jersey, on the East by God Coast. And he has driven the EV-TV in his brand new Model 3, and I'm not sure why. Matt, welcome.

Thank you, Jack. What's the mission? Well, so yeah, I drove all the way out here. Jack's doing pretty much what most people are not doing when it comes to batteries and Teslas.

So the goal is to have a completely 100% solar-powered electric house. I want it to be as off-grid as possible. Pretty much the only way to do that, well, I think the only, in my mind, sensible way to do that is with salvaged Tesla batteries.

And that's why I'm here. He's been here for the afternoon and yesterday. Kind of share with our viewers, there's not really a great connection between what they see on video and what life is like here at EVTV.

Can you share your impression of what you thought you'd see and what you found when you got here? More cigarettes than I thought. Not as much Dr. Pepper drinking. But yeah, it's a very cool place.

It's big. There's a lot going on here. Let's talk about your Model 3 first couple of developments.

So you drove from New Jersey to Cape Girardeau in a Model 3. How long have you had it? November. I got it in November. So you're familiar with the car by now, but it's still kind of new.

You've got a little different version from mine. What do you have? It's the mid-range. And how many miles is that supposed to get you? 264.

You know, they dropped the mid-range this week. The price? No, they dropped the car. Wasn't that the standard one they dropped? No.

Well, the mid-range is kind of the standard one. I guess right now it would be. They're still alluding to a lower-range $35,000 model.

But the mid-range disappeared from the website. And that was kind of interesting. What range do you get on it? If I fill it up, I get 264.

Which I never do. Once in a while I'll fill it all the way up just to see if it's still there. It says 264 and it does every time.

Supercharger from there to here? Was this a hard trip or easy? Nope. I just got in the car and went. I didn't have to plan anything.

I didn't do anything. I just did what the car told me. I never had to charge above 90%.

And I never dropped below, I think, 17%. And I think the longest I had to charge was 40 minutes at a time. 40 minutes was the most.

I was trying to explain something this morning to some guys on the battery nerd porn video, our last one. They had all kinds of questions about supercharging which I answered all of them. I was interested in the video.

But they were wanting ever faster charge speeds. And I related to them that 8 or 9 years ago we were all clamoring for more range. And I said, guys, this is going to happen.

It's just not going to happen as fast as you would like. But you're going to reach a range, and I would predict about 300 miles, where if they could give you more range than that, you're not going to be interested in it. Instead, you're going to change the question to, well, if let's say I bought a car with 200 mile range, could I get the car for less? And that was 8 or 9 years ago.

And that's exactly where we're at with the Model 3 now. As everybody wants to know, when can I get one for $35,000 that has less range? But a similar thing happens with the superchargers. Actually, I learned about this as modems got faster.

If you have a car that'll go 50 miles, and all of a sudden it'll do 120, that's a huge perceptual difference. If you've got one that'll do 120, and then it'll do 200, that's a pretty good perceptual difference. You can perceive it with your senses, and it makes a difference to you.

If you have a 200-mile car, and then it'll do 300 miles, that doesn't change your life very much. And with the superchargers, averaging about 150 miles between them, it doesn't change it much at all. To go from 300 to 500 gets to be why.

For me, the way I drive on the freeway, and we don't have the traffic you have by a lot, but 300 miles is 5 1⁄2 hours in the seat. How big a bladder you got there, cowboy? You're going to sit in a seat for 5 1⁄2 hours? Well, if I stop, I want to take a peek, I want to check my email, and I'd really like a sack full of Funyums. Now, how long does it take in a gas station? Years ago, we walked down the street to a very nearby BP gas station, and simply sat there in kind cars from curb to curb.

All of you think a gas station takes 5 minutes. What do you think it averaged? A lot more. 17 minutes.

There is some gassing going on, there's also some windshield washing going on, there's some paying for going on, sometimes there's some newspaper, sometimes there's a pee, and of course Funyums. They don't eat themselves, you know. And so, 17 minutes is what you're spending now, not 5. We've been to the gas station 30,000 times in our life, and we're hypnotized by it.

You think it's 5 minutes. It's not 5 minutes. It was never 5 minutes.

There's nothing you can do about it, and you've done it so many times, it's kind of a rote skill, and so you just kind of prance through it, and truly believe it's 5 minutes. It's not 5 minutes. For most of us.

Another thing I think people don't really understand until you actually own an electric car, is the more empty your battery is, the faster it accepts the charge. So if you pull in with 20%, in 15 minutes you can get, I don't know, I wrote all the numbers down. 50%.

Yeah, it's something crazy. So unless you really need to get that extra 90% charge, you take off as soon as you have the miles you need, and you're gone, and you're out of there much quicker. That's exactly correct.

I demonstrated it on the thing. This is the constant current, constant voltage switchover point. Higher current rate, it happens earlier.

Lower current rate, it happens later. But after it happens, you're tapering off. You're not doing full power anyway.

And toward the end, you're doing trivial amounts of current to top off the battery while you stand there. Now let me ask you this, on perceptual. If it was an hour stop, and you could get a 40 minute, would you go for that? If it was an hour stop, and I could charge in 40 minutes? I don't think I understand the question.

Is that perceptual difference significant to you? No, probably not that much. I would find it significant. In an hour, I've peed.

I've checked the email. I'm standing there waiting on the car. At 40 minutes, not so much so.

I'd be willing to concede that a difference between 40 minutes and 30 minutes has some advantage, but not near the advantage that an hour to 40 minutes are. And 30 minutes to 20 minutes is almost no advantage. Now let me ask you this, if it was 30 minutes for what you're going to charge, or say you're going to add 65 kilowatts to a 71 kilowatt battery, in 30 minutes, or the same supercharger, you could do that in 20 minutes, but at 30 minutes it's 25 cents a kilowatt hour, and at 20 minutes it's 50, so your fill-up is 14 bucks at 30 minutes and 28 bucks at 20 minutes, which would you pick? I would stick around a little longer.

10 minutes, what the fuck, over. And this is what I mean by diminishing returns on what is technically a big advance, but as a percentage of your experience, it's a small one, and you do not perceive an additional advantage. When we went from 1,200 watt motors to 2,400 watt motors, whoo-hoo! It's blowing our hair back.

When we went from 2,400 to 2,600, bang, they got us again. I'll pay 3,500 bucks for a modem, sure. When they went from 2,600 to 2,900, that's good, that's good.

When they went from 2,900 to 2,800, people almost didn't notice, and they go from 2,800 to 2,500, they got no premium at all, they just gave it to you for free because they can do it. Nobody cared. Today I got 100 megabit down, which is about 75 times faster than an internet service provider's connection in those days.

But the perceptual difference between that and 1.544, unless you're doing slow-talking video, in HD, it just doesn't matter to me. For email and just casual web browsing, I can't tell a difference. And so that's the story on supercharging.

So they did away with the Model X, I mean the mid-range, and let's talk about autopilot. I've been an autopilot skeptic, largely because the car can't open the garage door reliably. But they've been doing some updates.

You mentioned that yesterday. This morning I did a summon, not standing next to the garage door, but from my bathroom. It opened the garage door, pulled out the car, closed the garage door, and warmed up the car.

That's progress, right? Yeah, that's the part of autopilot that I want. I don't care about it driving the car, I just want it to get it out of the garage and warm it up, so I can step off the porch and do it. That's pretty cool.

You've got an update, and you don't even have the, you didn't even pay for the, what is it, the $5,000 to be autopilot ready? On the way out here, I did not have autopilot, because I didn't pay for it. When I got here, after a day, I wake up in the morning, and I have the option to try the trial. I hit the button, minutes later, it drives by itself.

It's going to be pretty cool, driving 1,000 miles here without it, which was a breeze. I had cruise control, I just had a little thumb wheel, like no one on the roads. The adaptive cruise control is actually pretty cool.

Now on the way back, it's going to be pretty cool to see the difference. You tested it in town? I did, probably where you're not really supposed to be using it, but I safely had my hands on the wheel. It was pretty amazing.

Was it navigating too? No. I think that just does it. I guess, what do they say, on ramps and off ramps? But yeah, it's not taking corners.

Through the city? No. But you were favorably impressed? It was pretty amazing. I'll let you know after 1,000 miles in a couple of days.

Personal preference being a big part of it, but there are avid autopilot enthusiasts, and then there are skeptics such as me, and I told you the story about the kid and the ball. Half the kids have balls, and all the balls have kids. How's autopilot going to handle that? My point was, it's an ever-changing variable environment, and I don't know how you code for that.

I do know kind of how AI works. I also know how confused the term is with expert systems and with other things to the point where, when somebody starts talking about this, I have no idea what they're talking about because I have no ability to trust that they know what they're talking about. And so it's kind of a nonsense conversation.

Elon Musk yesterday did a podcast with an investment company called ARK Invest, and what he said was that by the end of 2019, your car will be able to find you in a parking lot and pick you up and drive you to a destination. Hands-free. And he said that's absolutely certain, and there's no question about it.

That will be done by the end of 2019. He points to the exponential growth in data they get from Tesla drivers now who are using autopilot as the reason he thinks this can be done. The point at which you could get in the car, arrange your pillow, and nod off and let it do it.

He points to the end of 2020 and does note that regulators have a role, but he has a pretty good plan for winning them all. He's gathering data on how many accidents are occurring under autopilot and how many accidents are occurring in the same cars with autopilot off. And he believes that he'll be able to demonstrate on millions of miles of data that neither one are foolproof, but you're X percent safer on autopilot than you are driving the car yourself.

That could be true. I think even the way it is right now, autopilot plus human, you're like a superhuman. It's paying attention.

If you doze off, you're not dozing off, but for a split second you're not paying attention, it's doing its thing. So right now I think the combination of the both is pretty amazing. It is.

Is this 100% autopilot? There is a study out there that would indicate that relying on the autopilot, your corrections would be four or five times slower than if you were hands on the wheel driving the car. So it's not that you're going to be doing the same level of attention and ability to react that you would if you were driving the car yourself. But if he can show millions of miles of data with the number of accidents autopilot on and the number of accidents autopilot off and it's at any level significant or persuasive, that will terminate the regulatory debate.

They have to face data and reality. So good things coming on autopilot. Stealing an enormous march on the industry if he brings that home.

And I did pay the $5,000. And so far I have finally gotten it able to summon out of the garage. It's not precisely a bargain at this point.

But I'm hopeful for the future. Do you park it that way too? Going into the garage or just leaving? I don't. I should probably test that, shouldn't I? I wonder if it has a summon, a de-summon, a park.

That's an interesting question. Well, it was pretty cool last night. I went to park and then all of a sudden the park, auto park, it was just there.

The car parked, parallel parked for me. I didn't even think about that. I forgot that was even a thing and all of a sudden it was just there and it did it.

It's pretty cool. Did it do any good? Yeah. Well, there you go.

I can't predict when that little flag is going to jump up. I pull up next to a car and want to parallel park and it's an electronic laser. It sits there and it lays there.

It doesn't do anything. I'm still very skeptical under the rubric that if you want to eat sausage, you shouldn't know a whole lot about how sausage is made. I'm suffering a little bit from knowing too much about what's inside the beast and the people who do that, ever, hopefully.

Elon has brought in some of the best minds in the world on this topic and pressured them extremely to produce this and they've all quit it and gone on to other things. I think because they are somewhat cognizant of the scale of what he's asking. I'm not saying he's not cognizant of it but they're not confident they can deliver it and by the way, there's an offer from somebody else down the street that's even more lucrative and you don't have to listen to Elon Musk every week.

And so, that's going on. But at this point, he is sounding very confident about a pretty significant high-level auto-function ability for the Tesla cars and if he pulls that off, it's a big deal. I wanted him to get where he could open and close the garage door first.

Next, I'm going to test how he does going out on the internet and getting a song right. He had a little problem with that too. And I understand there's a lot of things about Model 3 I don't like.

This thing where the window's got to come down to open the door. What planet is this? This is just goofy. I miss the fob.

The fob's now available but it doesn't do what the fob does in the Model S. So, we'll see how that goes. I'm going to get one. So, I remain a fanboy but there's things about the car I just don't like.

And it's not entirely consistent in its reaction to me with my phone or those little NFR near-field radio cards. And so, I'm a whining fan. And so, there we are.

Matt is, of course, in New Jersey. They have access to the ocean. He actually asked me about our PowerSafe how it did under saltwater air.

What was my response? We don't get a lot of salt air around here. We don't do a lot of salt air testing here at EVTV because we're in Missouri. However, he built an electric boat.

Tell us about that. So, I had a diesel sailboat. 31-foot sailboat.

And I've always been into electric cars and solar. And I figured, why not in a boat? So, I ripped out the diesel. Threw in an electric motor. A few solar panels.

And it's a 100% solar-powered electric boat. Human perception. How did that come out? I think pretty amazing.

It's the synergy between electric and solar and sailing. It's silent. From the sun shining under the sun alone, I could probably do about two knots.

Just straight from the sun. So, it's pretty cool. At this point, we hear from more boat people than we do EV people.

And the problem is, I was going to do a boat. In fact, I had two boats I was going to do. An all-wooden torpedo from... I can't remember the name of the company.

And then Anna Kloppenberg in Amsterdam made me a replica of an aluminum boat built in England after the Second World War. Cool boat. And it was damaged in shipping.

And we went through a whole thing with a maritime evaluator or something. And Anna got the insurance money. Well, his business was kind of struggling, so he just spent the money and didn't send me the replacement boat.

Somehow that's okay in Denmark. It happens to me sometimes. Never heard from him since.

Here's the problem. I don't know a lot about boats. Now, I know from watching YouTube and the Internet in general that the proper thing to do when you have a little bit of expertise and someone asks you to apply it to something else is you just make a bunch of shit up.

But all these things are like onions. Boat floats. I got that.

You peel the onion back, there's a little more to it than that. You peel that layer back, it gets worse. Am I making this up? Yeah.

No, I mean, boats are... As anyone who owns a boat knows, it's a lot more to it than a car or anything else. Because everything's got to be just right. And what does boat stand for as an acronym? There's probably a few.

Break out another thousand. That's the main one. And so... But these boat guys are terribly enthusiastic.

And it's kind of like the cars, but more so, you're out in nature, on the water, you've got no vibration, you've got very little noise, nothing smells bad, and with solar, you really don't quite run out. You can get stranded, sit in the sun for an hour, and then go home. Yeah, so it's just like a car.

So let's say you're out, your battery's getting low, you can usually make it back and just go a little slower. And, you know, with a sailboat, it's supposed to be an auxiliary engine anyway. So you're not blocking a lot of traffic.

No, sailboats are very slow. If you've never been in a sailboat, they don't go fast. I have been.

I've been on boats quite a bit. I didn't say I'd never seen a boat. I spent four years on an aircraft carrier.

And I have sailed quite a bit with a friend of mine who's an avid sailor. Although after about 15 years of that, he gave up and went to a motor yacht. So he's not sailing now.

He's motoring. But he's got the same problem I have. He's 63 years old and things change.

Now he wants to just... So it's a little easier to deal with. Dealing with a sailboat can be physical. And you're what, age-wise? 38, 39.

You like to stay trim. Health foods, exercise. Yeah, sailboat is perfect for you.

Not so perfect when you're 300 pounds and old and you keep dozing off. If you doze off on a sailboat, you might wake up in another hemisphere and be famous in Spain. The one thing about an electric boat is it is a lot less maintenance.

It's crazy to think, especially in New Jersey, you have like 10 weeks of summer. And you do all this work on the diesel. You're supposed to winterize it, change the oil every 25 hours.

It's like crazy. All of a sudden, the summer's over. Electric boat, you just go.

You get in the boat and you just go. End of the season, disconnect the batteries. It sits there.

That's it. Nothing to do. Well, now my understanding of boats is they pretty much pay you to let them do that maintenance.

They don't really charge you for that, do they? You have some mechanical work done on a dock part. Suck it up. And don't show your backside.

Oh, yeah. I mean, if you're paying someone to do your work, it gets crazy real quick. And so that's boats.

Let's talk about the current project. Now, you were a... Matt and I have a lot in common. At a fairly young age, he quit working for the man.

When did you give up your day job? About two years ago. I mean, the one for somebody else. Two years ago.

And then you did it for a while on your own? Correct, yep. And this is like home automation for big houses, wealthy houses. And a little bit beyond the X10, I guess.

Alexa's getting into that game some. Yeah, Amazon's trying to get in there. So, but his new project is a house... You're building a house or renovating it? Renovating.

And it's in... Right outside Asbury Park. Asbury Park. And what's your mission there? So it's going to be 100% electric.

Ripping out the gas lines, so the gas stove goes, the oven, the water heater, heating system, all gone. It's going to be a Mitsubishi heat pump. The most efficient thing you can get right now.

Induction stove, heat pump, water heater. And about a 19 kilowatt solar system. So the goal is to be as off the grid as possible.

And no compromises. And no compromises. Fully electric, fully functional home.

Fully functional. Enough power to charge two electric cars. Well, now that gets to be, that bumps the token.

It does. As you've seen here, we've been playing around with inverters and batteries and Matt needs to charge and only gets to kind of when we're in between hooking stuff up. It's... A car is a big blow.

And the utility companies have picked up on that. And so they have special rates for EVs that are very attractive. Except, then snuck into the last page, in four point type, if you can believe it, is something called demand charges.

And so you get a very attractive rate if you have an EV, except you'll never see that because of the peak demand charges. And this is a shit show war that's going on in 35 states right now. California, this week, has... I think it was dated February 13th, but I heard about it this week.

They have introduced Senate Bill 288, which is a Homeowners Solar Bill of Rights. And it's got some great intentions and it's just a Democrat document of unbelievable good intention. I think it's going to be trouble, but they've got the right idea.

I'm with the Senate, okay? Completely. Also this week, February 19th, California Rule 21 entered Phase 2. After February 19th, 2019, you cannot get a grid-tied solar system signed off unless it's compliant with California Rule 21 Phase 2. What's Phase 2? Well, it's a little more control that the utility can have with voltage and frequency to modulate the output of microinverters such as our solar edge and our Enphase. And Enphase has already announced they are compliant and everybody with Enphase IQ 6 or 7, I think, can use the gateway to download new firmware and install it on all the Enphases quite automatically.

And you'll be good for Rule 21. What's interesting is Phase 3 of Rule 21. And that goes into effect next year.

And that gives the utility company the ability to throttle your Enphase microinverter in precise steps essentially continuously. And so trim down the amount of solar your solar system makes. And it gives control of a second thing.

And that's the ramp rate down and up. And I'm like trying to figure out why they want that. Well, I figured it out.

And in fact I found some references to it. California has a lot of solar now. Did you know that? I shit pot full of it.

Now here's what happens. In the afternoon when everybody's making solar the duct curve turns into a gorilla. And they start having problems with stability of the network for frequency and voltage.

A lot of commercial and industrial use at that time. But a lot of solar floating around out there too gets to be kind of a complex problem. If in any particular area they go out of the ability to deal with this they'll go outside the parameters of 57-62 hertz and the voltages 212 and 264.

Am I making that up? We'll just put a little title as if I knew what I was talking about. And all the microinverters shut down. Picture block after block after block of houses with solar on them shutting down at the same time.

Well that makes the problem work. But now with them off they can get this trimmed up and take care of it. And just about when they've got it all going pretty good say what five minutes later every one of those solar panels comes back up at the same time and wrecks them again.

So the grid is having real problems adjusting to high levels of solar activity. Why am I not sympathetic? My house never has an automatic transfer switch. This is a big clunky gray box with a relay in it that's powered by the grid.

If you lose the grid, it flops open. You're running on solar alone. It's foolproof.

It's so foolproof, by the way, all this UL 1741 safety shed and all that is a complete con job, a fraud because we had those and we still have them. If you install a generator, they're required. That's how you deal with it, with a generator.

A generator doesn't have built-in anti-islanding. You gotta use an automatic transfer switch now. They've never gone away and they work perfectly.

I've never heard of an incident with one failing. Though I've heard of one failing, but it didn't do anything to the grid. You just couldn't bring your solar up.

By enacting this fraudulent UL 1741, the utilities have caused their own problems with unintended consequences. Does that sound at all familiar to any of you left-libtards? You meant really well. You're not very smart.

In this case, I didn't pick it up either, but now it's here. What's the solution? What's their solution? More control. More centralized control of a distributed electric resource.

It's part of the New Green Deal. The Green New Deal? The Deal of New Greens. The Eat Your Green.

I'm not sure, but Alexandria Oreo Cookie. We'll explain all that to you later. But this is part of the war with the utility grids.

You can't rely on them to do what's best for them. And by the way, they don't have any interest in doing what's best for you. They want to control, and they want more money.

And so that's the battle we're in, and why we advocate selfish solar, and you control your own system. And that's why I've been telling you, in Senate Bill 288, they have this fantasy about the grid acting as the storage battery for solar. It can't do it.

They can't do it now. They have their own load management problems. They're not even as good at it as you are.

It won't work. They could have a role in the future in arbitrage. Let's take electricity from California and send it to New Jersey.

You're in the dark. We're not. And neighborhood to neighborhood, state to state, city to city.

We'll be in snow and here in 30 miles north, it's blue skies. They could have a great role in electricity arbitrage between micro communities of solar production. They've got no interest in that.

I don't know why they have no interest in it. They're set up to do it at very low cost. They already collect all the taxes on utilities.

We're $0.10 a kilowatt hour, but it costs us $12.50 because the city of Cape Verde gets a little bit. The county of Cape Verde gets a little bit. The state of Missouri gets a little bit.

Everybody's got a finger in the pie. And, of course, utility companies do this in software. And it doesn't have to have artificial intelligence.

It's not going to wreck your car. But they do make mistakes on the bill. And I've often advocated that we get rid of the whole income tax and actually tax electricity because we've got a good meter on it and it's like 300 companies is where you need to collect it.

And so tax avoidance kind of goes away. Put a $1.00 a kilowatt hour tax on it, you'll be wanting a Tesla battery to make solar. And solar will get a big boost.

You simply exempt geothermal, solar, and wind, and it'll be a huge bump for them. Nobody wants to hear that! And so the... I think it's going to happen anyway because of the falling unit sales in electricity driven initially by LEDs and solar. But moving fairly quickly to heat and temperature.

And Matt just told me something I just don't believe, but I would like to believe it. What did you say the theoretical limit on seasonal energy efficiency ratings is? 130. That's like absolute maximum.

ClimateMaster has a 48 right now. What's your Mitsubishi that's the best? I'm around 20 something. Well it's not the best.

Well once you start splitting it. Once you start what? Splitting it. So it's a heat pump system.

A mini split system. But when you add more splits, it goes down. So compared to any other system the same, it's the best.

But it is a lower SEER. We want SEER to go up, not down. Well I know, but that's the best you could buy right now.

Better than ClimateMaster and twice the SEER? Well because that's probably for a one to one. So one indoor unit to one outdoor unit, that's probably where they're getting that SEER. Once you start splitting them, one outdoor unit to multiple indoors, the SEER goes down.

Okay. I don't think of that. One of the nice things about the ClimateMaster and all the modern ones, is they have adopted a technology from electric vehicles where their inverters to drive their motors are variable speed.

So they can run that system at an extremely low level and they can turn around and pump it up to a pretty high level and everything in between in a continuous computer controlled loop. And so that makes it pretty interesting. Big house, different zones, maybe what you say is true.

That could be wrong. It's very possible. You're kidding.

So there's two of us. There's two guys left on the internet. I'm sure someone else on the internet is going to correct both of us.

As soon as I said that I thought, well some of these houses are pretty sprawling. You got one thing going on over here, one thing going over there, and the splits might have an advantage in that case. Simply by being smaller and scattered.

So I get what you're saying. So we've covered the car, we've covered the solar, so what did you hope to accomplish with the trip and how deeply have we disappointed you or how thrilled and awestruck are you? Pretty much what I thought. Kind of in between.

I think you're really close to what I need. But I think by the time I'm ready to put it in a couple months, I think you'll be closer. So the thing is, I don't want any compromises.

That's the key. I can't have someone come over and say, oh well you can't dry your hair and wash your dishes at the same time, and they're going to be like, oh, I'm never going to do it because that's just silly. I am all over that and with you 100%.

It doesn't do any good to show off a solar home and then explain to them why you have to suffer for the planet and why it doesn't work. I've actually seen YouTube videos that are after one year and the wife's pulling her hair out. She can't vacuum and boil water at the same time.

And she's got a 5 kilowatt battery and a 5 kilowatt inverter and it just didn't work. I shocked Matt a little bit yesterday when I said the average home, my best guess right now, is you need about 250,000 kilowatt hours of storage for all this to work out. And he was a little shocked but we've had several days of overcast and gloom.

Got a guy that ordered another PowerSafe. The day we get ready to put molters in the crate, he calls and wants to order a PowerSafe 100 for Antigua in the Bermuda Islands. And he sends me a video of his island resort.

Let's take a look. So what kind of jackass sends a guy in Missouri who's suffering through the gloom and the cold of February a video like that of a place that's 78 degrees and blue sky? That's cruel, Wayne. But he's already wired in the money so we're buddies.

We went to a building once and it took him about 12 hours. He wants it pretty bad. We're in development here.

We have a concept called selfless solar. We're working daily on learning how to manage these batteries effectively and how to have a point of use generation facility. If it was easy and it's done, I'm not going to be here for that.

I really only pick targets that are actually kind of impossible. And this one's tough. And the solution I don't dare mention because people shriek in horror at 250,000 kilowatt hours of 250 kilowatt hours of battery storage.

Well, 15,000, 20,000 bucks a battery, I got it. But how about if they're 3,500 or 4,000? And I'm predicting Elon Musk's cost on the Model 3 battery guys is under $7,500 and closing in on $7,000. People are wrecking these cars.

We're up to 33 on Copart this week. I'm predicting a year from now that we'll be under that $7,000 for one of these Model 3 batteries. And so I live a few years out there.

And some of it doesn't make sense when I start, but it'll all become clear. And yeah, you're probably going to need about 250 kilowatts of storage, and you're not going to be able to rely on the utility companies for it. In fact, they're going to try to pants you along the way.

And your own PUC and state legislator representatives, they're going to be in there with them. And I think with a little bit of luck and a lot of work, we might be able to show you some ways to trick-fuck that donkey. I could fail, and I could be wrong, but now there's two of us that could be on the same internet.

I'm feeling kind of like part of a club now. I thought I was the last guy left that could have it all picked up. Stay with us.